H.R. 4183, The Helping Unemployed Workers Act (12720 comments ↓ | 3 wiki edits: view article ↓)

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H.R. 4183 would amend the Assistance for Unemployed Workers and Struggling Families Act and the Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2008 to provide for the temporary extension of programs providing unemployment benefits.

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December 16, 2009, 3:28pm (report abuse)

So what happened to the 2 months of extension...did it past or not...things change so fast and get so confusing...

So confused

December 16, 2009, 4:13pm (report abuse)

I only got 7 weeks. The trick is you can get UP to 13 weeks. I didn't get even close to that.


December 16, 2009, 4:36pm (report abuse)

@ cmr

I have not seen the 2 month extension for 2010 pass yet?

marina franchild

December 16, 2009, 4:48pm (report abuse)

I just spoke with Paul Tonko's office and was informed that additional weeks were added to those folks whose unemployment will end in mid January 2010. Is t his information accurate?

There's alot of confusion

December 16, 2009, 4:56pm (report abuse)

There are so many people talking about so many different things/types of extensions and to make matters more confusing that only pertain to their personal situation or state. In many cases we are just confusing one another. Wait for this bill to be passed and check with your local office for the facts as to where you stand.


(logged-in user) December 16, 2009, 4:59pm (report abuse)

Isn't ANYbody tracking progress of the Defense Spending bill???

yay, Congress

December 16, 2009, 5:10pm (report abuse)

The House just passed the bill:


Brenda Sands

December 16, 2009, 5:54pm (report abuse)

My vote is in favor of this bill. Without it, the Federal unemployment extensions are useless for millions of people, people like me, who have never in their lives filed for unemployment benefits, but were forced to in this current economic crisis. Without it, many families will be forced to live on the streets.


December 16, 2009, 7:27pm (report abuse)

To so confused, I only got 9 weeks myself, however on my org claim when I was first laid-off I only got 13 weeks out of 26. they said I did'nt make enough money in the 6 years I worked for min wage. because they don't go by the 6 years they just go by the year. So if on your org claim you didn't get the full amount of weeks, that goes the same for all the extensions.


December 16, 2009, 8:22pm (report abuse)

From what I sound out after searching so many sites...the bill passed the house today but still has to be passed by the senate, Friday is the day they will give us a thumbs up or down...but the extension would only be until end of Feb. The Jobs bill will be reviewed in Jan. and hope it will be signed by Obama, which will give us until June...well unless we can all find jobs that pay worth anything.

Cobra info

December 16, 2009, 10:46pm (report abuse)



WASHINGTON—The U.S. House of Representatives overwhelmingly approved legislation Wednesday that would extend the federal subsidy of COBRA health insurance premiums for employees who are involuntarily terminated.

Embedded in H.R. 3326, a measure appropriating funds for the Department of Defense, the nine-month, 65% premium subsidy would be extended by six months to a total of 15 months. It would apply to those who lose their jobs through Feb. 28, 2010.

The measure also would provide an additional six months of subsidized coverage for beneficiaries whose nine-month COBRA premium subsidy has run out.

In addition, the legislation would give beneficiaries whose subsidy ran out and who didn’t pay the full premium a second chance to opt for coverage.


December 17, 2009, 8:20am (report abuse)

I hope this bill passed because its for the tier 3 and 4 , those who have not started their tier 3 for 14 weeks! and tier 4 is for the 6 weeks for high unemployment rate states. because if you have not started tier 3 or 4 by 12-30-09

you can not get these tiers unless this bill passes. I heard on the news that the House has now went on their holiday break, I sure hope they passed this, sometimes this site takes up to 2-3 days before its updated. The Senate will go on their break next week, I think, but not sure. good luck everyone, and try to have a Merry Christmas and not worry.

AP Update 12/17/2009

December 17, 2009, 3:36pm (report abuse)

Here is a associated press update for today 12/17/2009. Looks like a extension was passed by the house today. The Senate will vote after the holidays. Looks like this should happen the beginning of the year...Hope this makes everone feel better.

Thursday, December 17, 2009

The Record


0 Comments WASHINGTON — President Obama’s Democratic allies in the House on Wednesday muscled through a year-end plan to create jobs, mixing about $50 billion for public works projects with another almost $50 billion for cash-strapped state and local governments.

The unemployed would get continued benefits.

two different bills

December 17, 2009, 5:55pm (report abuse)

The defense bill has the two-month unemployment extension (through February 28th for the new tier passed in November) and the cobra six month extension. The House passed this yesterday.

The jobs bill will hopefully extend unemployment for a time period after the two-month extension included in the defense bill but it won't be concluded until probably after the New Year.

Does anyone know if the Senate passed the defense bill yet?


December 17, 2009, 6:33pm (report abuse)

According to the Washington Post, the defense bill which is still carrying the 2 month extension in unemployment is expected to pass the senate sometime after midnight tonight and ready for Obama on Saturday morning....this is what they need to wrap up the end of the year unfinished business.


(logged-in user) December 17, 2009, 7:11pm (report abuse)

OK, The Senate has to be back at 12:01 AM per Reid and the vote, so that Reid can invoke CLOTURE! This means that Sat. morning it will be voted on!

HAHAHA....They now have to be back in the chambers at the WEE hours in the morning!

It would be after that when the president can sign it!


December 18, 2009, 7:00am (report abuse)

Extension of Emergency Unemployment Compensation Program

(EUC08) Benefits Through December 26, 2009.The Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC08) program is a temporary, 100% federally financed program that provides additional weeks of unemployment benefits at the state level. The 1st tier of EUC08 provides up to 20 additional weeks of unemployment compensation to all

qualified workers who have exhausted regular unemployment compensation.2 The 2nd tier of

EUC08 provides up to an additional 13 weeks of benefits in states with high unemployment. DOL

tracks unemployment rates in the states, and a state is said to trigger “on” to the EUC 2nd tier of

benefits if unemployment conditions in the state reach certain thresholds.

ARRA extends the availability of EUC08 benefits through December 26, 2009.



December 18, 2009, 7:01am (report abuse)



unemployed individuals who had qualified for the tier I or tier II EUC08 benefit would continue

to receive payments for the number of weeks they were deemed eligible. There are no new

entrants into either the tier I or tier II EUC08 program after December 26, 2009. If an individual

exhausts his or her regular unemployment compensation (UC) benefits (or EB benefits in a few

states) after December 26, 2009, the individual would not be eligible for any EUC08 benefit.

Those beneficiaries receiving tier I or tier II EUC08 benefits on December 26, 2009, are

“grandfathered” for their remaining weeks of eligibility. If eligible to continue to receive the tier I

benefit after December 26, 2009, an individual would not be entitled to tier II benefits once those

benefits were exhausted. Neither tier I nor tier II EUC08 benefits are payable for any week after

June 6, 2010.4

Supplemental FAC


December 18, 2009, 8:36am (report abuse)

I have not seen anything on the web that has said that this bill has passed the house, and if so why hasn't this site updated that. this site and Open Congress site, still says last action was 12-2-2009.

terri fl

December 18, 2009, 9:15am (report abuse)

the bill was clouterd last night at 1:00 am and final vote tomarrow morning

to stc

December 18, 2009, 11:04am (report abuse)

"I have not seen anything on the web that has said that this bill has passed the house, and if so why hasn't this site updated that. this site and Open Congress site, still says last action was 12-2-2009."

Easy reason - this bill was not used as the vehicle for the short-term employment extension and/or cobra subsidy.

Instead, the defense bill (which has been passed by the House and will hopefully be passed by the Senate in short order) included the concept of this particular bill - more money for the unemployed!


December 18, 2009, 11:45am (report abuse)

Guys, guy, and dolls, and everyone else, let's not worry, and wait until there is a signature from Obama signed. sealed and delivered. Then when and if it happens, wait a week or two, then call up your unemployment offices to get an update. Just sit back, relax, just don't give up hope looking and not finding employment, and ENJOYYYYY Christmas and New Years.

Johnny d.

December 18, 2009, 12:34pm (report abuse)

The houe passed a large defense spending bill that would extend benefits even beyond the the bill passed a few weeks ago. The legislation also extends enhanced unemployment benefits through the end of February. Congress approved legislation adding 14 weeks of unemployment benefits for anyone whose other benefits run out by the end of this year but the provision in the defense spending budget means a person whose benefits run out

by February 28, 2010, qualify for additional coverage- as well as 6 more weeks in high unemployment state such as Michigan.


December 18, 2009, 12:36pm (report abuse)

Yes, look at the Michigan Messenger, and you'll read it.


December 18, 2009, 1:33pm (report abuse)

so with this two month extension.. I run out of tier 2 in NY on Feb 7th, this extension then moves me to tier 3 without complications, right? Its tier 4 that may be a miss


December 18, 2009, 2:26pm (report abuse)

@ krista

That is correct...


(logged-in user) December 18, 2009, 2:42pm (report abuse)

What about the Jobs bill? Isn't that our best chance for getting additional benefits? What's being considered in the House?

Everybody's focused on health care while the House is moving along quietly. So where is that Jobs bill at the moment?


(logged-in user) December 18, 2009, 2:46pm (report abuse)

The Defense Spending bill was passed by the House and has already been voted on for a cloture measure. They need to wait 30 hours beforer a final vote. The bill is expected to pass - most probably tomorrow.

So Confused

December 18, 2009, 5:11pm (report abuse)

Ok just spoke to the state...I will go onto tier 3...they do expect for other tiers to be passed or weeks added. I can get UP to 20 weeks. She said most are getting 7-20. I will take 7. Mine end first part of Jan. Good luck everyone!


December 18, 2009, 8:59pm (report abuse)

EDD has paid us twice for week ending nov 21,received check yesterday for nov 21 and another check cut today for nov 21 now what is edd going to do?


December 18, 2009, 9:08pm (report abuse)

I just received a demand for payment of rent due in 5 days or eviction proceedings begin how long do I have before getting evicted? If anyone knows please answer???

george k.

December 18, 2009, 9:59pm (report abuse)

what is with this extension that will run out this month?

I live in PA, and is it going to affect me now that i am on the newest one just signed in november?

to george k

December 19, 2009, 7:45am (report abuse)

The bill passed in November was *supposed* to give you 13 weeks (plus 7 more if you live in a high unemployment state) but was also set to expire at the end of December. Since it didn't start until late November there was no way it could be completed. The new extension passed by the House corrected this problem so that we could all receive the full number of weeks which was the original intent of the November bill.

Answer for "Help"

December 19, 2009, 10:40am (report abuse)

It varies from state to state and other variables such as if children are living with you and if you are renting or buying, etc...

Just google "(your state)eviction laws"

senate votes!

December 19, 2009, 11:02am (report abuse)

and the Defense bill is now a go!


(logged-in user) December 19, 2009, 11:39am (report abuse)

Pennsylvania friends,

If congress extends the EUC program through February 28th ... that means that Tier 4 will become available if the average unemployment rate for November, December and January averages at least 8.5% in February when Tier 3 would end (for those getting Tier 3 as soon as it became available). Am I correct?

also in PA

December 19, 2009, 12:00pm (report abuse)

I wonder how this effects the HUP EB that was to expire on 01/02/10? I will have six weeks left of that tier by the end of the year. Does anyone know if that will now continue into 2010 and then I would begin receiving the 14 weeks passed in NOV? Perhaps I would only get the 14 weeks? At any rate, it is a relief that this passed, as it came as a surprise that I initially was losing all benefits by the end of 2009. Thank goodness this passed!


December 19, 2009, 12:30pm (report abuse)

By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer Andrew Taylor, Associated Press Writer – 56 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Senators worked through a December blizzard Saturday to pass legislation ensuring that U.S. troops are armed and the jobless don't lose their benefits — and take one more step toward a Christmas week showdown over health care.

The 88-10 early morning vote on the $626 billion defense spending bill and other must-pass items cleared Congress' plate of a major item of unfinished business and meant lawmakers immediately could resume their acrimonious debate on health care


December 19, 2009, 1:02pm (report abuse)

I don't know where you're getting your information from, but we are already getting the extra weeks in pennsylvania because before the president signed it in November, for what i read, we already had 3 straight months of higher unemployment of 8.6% or higher. It doesn't go by November, December and January, because if it did, we wouldn't have been on the list of 26 states getting the 20 weeks.


(logged-in user) December 19, 2009, 2:04pm (report abuse)

The six weeks is not a "given". It depends on whether PA is at 8.5% at the time.


December 19, 2009, 2:07pm (report abuse)

If everthing in the house and the senate, far as unemployment benefits gets passed.How many total week's of benefit's for California?


(logged-in user) December 19, 2009, 2:10pm (report abuse)

PA is currently triggered on for Tier 4 based on the unemployment rate for the last three months, but may not be triggered on when I finish Tier 3 on February 13. Here is a link to the Department of Labor. Choose "Emergency Unemployment Compensation Trigger"



December 19, 2009, 2:30pm (report abuse)

If you read the unemployment rate the last 3 months, it was enough to get the extra 6 weeks. That is why we are one of the 26 states getting 20 weeks because of high unemployment.

Also in PA

December 19, 2009, 2:32pm (report abuse)


I also was under the impression that the additional 7 weeks was a done deal based on the figures leading up to when the bill passed. Went to the DOL site and clicked on link for trigger info & it just brought up a calender with no explanation?

clinton jr

December 19, 2009, 2:33pm (report abuse)

I've been reading that they might extend unemployment 6 more months after this one, it was in the newspaper, but that won't be looked into until after sometime in 2010.

@also in PA

December 19, 2009, 2:34pm (report abuse)

Me 2, i agree with you

in ohio

December 19, 2009, 6:40pm (report abuse)

my unemployment runs out in Feb, I am on the Bush 20 week extension, I dont understand all the tiers, am I going to get another extension under the hr 4183?

KG in Mass

December 19, 2009, 8:40pm (report abuse)

Is there anyone from Mass. that has received the 4th extension check that I was told was mailed out on the 15th? I still haven't received it yet and don't understand why its taking so long. Mass is so slow compared to other states.


December 19, 2009, 8:47pm (report abuse)

after the holiday congress will pass more weeks of unemployment

because everyone will get laid off after the holidays again


(logged-in user) December 19, 2009, 8:57pm (report abuse)

Pennsylvania friends,

Do not assume that you will automatically be getting Tier 4 EUC. Tier 4 is based on the current three month unemployment average rate. Right now that rate is 8.7% for Pennsylvania. If that rate drops below 8.5% when I am ready for Tier 4 in February, I won't be able to get Tier 4. For example Alaska will just qualify for Tier 4 on January 2nd. Eligibility for Tier 4 is evaluated each week by figures from the Department of Labor. Here is the link again.

Choose "Emergency Unemployment Compensation Trigger"



(logged-in user) December 19, 2009, 9:29pm (report abuse)

Additional info on Tier 4

It appears that a state's eligibility ends about three weeks after the three month average drops below 8.5%. November unemployment figures came out on December 18th and Wisconsin's last week to claim under Tier 4 is the week ending January 9th. I guess that the Department of Labor gives the states about three weeks to adjust their benefits.


December 20, 2009, 9:03am (report abuse)

OK, my Tier 2 runs out the first week of January. Will I now be able to get Tier 3 under what just passed?


December 20, 2009, 11:12am (report abuse)

Extending these handouts should not be done in more than 4 month increments. I stil have a job but my company has had to pay larger and larger unemployment taxes to cover this and we are making less and less money. The gravy train is going to have to end somewhere.


December 20, 2009, 2:08pm (report abuse)


The spending bill just passed extends benefits til the end of feb 2010. So you should be good to go on tier 3....


December 20, 2009, 2:36pm (report abuse)

Yes, we are all making less and less money. The gravy train is going to have to end somewhere. Many of us are going to have to get used to different lifestyles and doing with less, whether we are employed or unemployed.

The gravy train

December 20, 2009, 2:53pm (report abuse)

will end and unless jobs are created fast, the walfare train will be the one rolling down the USA tracks


December 20, 2009, 3:37pm (report abuse)

can someone explain the tiers? or provide a link to it?


December 21, 2009, 10:29am (report abuse)

I can absolutly understand why so many approve this bill, there are millions out of work, and need money to survive. This bill is just a bandaid. and in my opinion,We(I having been out of work for more than a year, and do not collect unemployment) will have to eventually have to go to work, meaning we will need jobs. As of now, ALL! Jobs are still being held by Illegal aliens. I'm in construction, have been for 27+ years, seeing my pay go from $11hr- working up to supervisory position at $22.50hr, then they changed the language to spanish, which I do not speak. I can speak some German/Japanese, because I served there, as my children are now. I don'tr want any bills past to fix anything!. Until you get rid of all Illegal aliens. Then we 'U.S.' can afford our own healthcare, home, cars, We the people will fix all that needs fixing, with no tax increase at all. We will self fix all with no help from the government. They just have to enforce the LAW!.

Carolina Jo

December 21, 2009, 12:01pm (report abuse)

Nothing. Nothing in my mail box, nothing in my account. I ran out in late September. I'm scrambling for temp work...anything. NOTHING that Congress has done as far as an extension has reached me. Merry Christmas Washington.


December 21, 2009, 12:43pm (report abuse)

What i read a while back, that if you can't afford the mandatory health insurance, you can sign a waiver so you don't have to worry about jail time.

KG in Mass

December 21, 2009, 2:15pm (report abuse)

Here is another day and no check in my mail box and Christmas in four days. Can't even find a temp job, out of work for two years now. Anyone from Mass receive their check yet?


(logged-in user) December 21, 2009, 6:58pm (report abuse)


H.R.3326 Department of Defense

Appropriations Act, 2010 was

signed by the Prez earlier today.


extends EUC08 Phase-out and

Expiration dates by 2 months to

February 28, 2010 and July 31, 2010, respectively.

Congress is expected to keep

working on H.R.4183 and S.2831

after the holidays.


December 22, 2009, 11:03am (report abuse)

I agree with DAVKON, my job of 24 yrs went to Mexico and all the jobs in my city are held by Mexicans and Puerto Ricans. 52% of the city is occupied by them. I have applied for so many jobs, I can't count. A lot of jobs in the paper ask for by- klingual, what the hell is up with that? It's also the employers too, because they pay these bastards minimum wage and then they can go and get all kinds of help from welfare. What a joke, if all the jobs are going to Mexico why the hell do they come here? WELFARE BENEFITS!!!


December 22, 2009, 11:58am (report abuse)

So, they might be talking after the new year about a possible extension for 6 months? I've been out of work since 2007, my credit score and backround keeps me from getting employment.


December 22, 2009, 1:15pm (report abuse)


You stated "A lot of jobs in the paper ask for by-klingual" Does that mean you have to speak klingon to get a job...LOL TOO funny.....


December 22, 2009, 4:52pm (report abuse)

Already getting used to a new lifestyle. From $20.00/hr. as a welder (over 20yrs.) to unemployment for a year will change your lifestyle. I don't want a gravy train, I just want to keep a house and food on my table for my family. I would rather have a job, but am glad for the extensions.


December 22, 2009, 7:31pm (report abuse)

@KevinFinnerty: you are right, tooo funny! I had to laugh myself. I hit the k/l keys together I guess. What I meant was bi-lingual. I used to speak klingon, but there were no press "3" for klingon so I had to learn to speak English.


December 23, 2009, 11:26am (report abuse)

@ help

What state do you live in?

Kevin Finnerty

December 23, 2009, 2:08pm (report abuse)

@anonny:Very funy mistake. I needed a good laugh. Thanks!! I hope your situation improves for the new year. Happy holidays!!

The Florida unemployment website has been updated to reflect the new extension. It extends the benefits date to 2/27/2010. If you expired before 11/01/2009 you need to reapply. After 11/01/2009 thru 02/27/2010 you will automatically be qualified for the tier 3 benefits extension.You can go to fluidnow.com for more info....


December 23, 2009, 4:37pm (report abuse)

@Kevin Finnerty: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also. I'm glad you got a laugh, so did I. Not many of them these days. I wish you the best, thanks for the fun. Anonny

Kimberly Anderson

December 26, 2009, 1:19am (report abuse)

enough with the free loading! Go [vulgarity]!


December 26, 2009, 11:30am (report abuse)

Here's a list, state by state, that lists how many weeks of EUC and EB each state receives. This includes the last extension signed November 5, 2009.

Read here:


there is

December 27, 2009, 1:15am (report abuse)

talk about a jobs bill, but it won't hit the senate floor till March. They want 5 million to exhaust their benefits before they extend it again. Hell will freeze over before that happens, the republicans said they will not sign off on another extension, it's time for people to swallow their pride and take that miminum wage job.


December 27, 2009, 12:34pm (report abuse)

The government can't allow 15 million people to lose their unemployment benefits around the same time. The economy will collapse. All these people will apply for food stamps and other services flooding government run entitlements. The Repubs. will have to extend more benefits...like it or not....


(logged-in user) December 27, 2009, 4:58pm (report abuse)

I have 4 weeks left of the 9 weeks I received for the last extension. I have no firm job offers. Is the bill extending benefits for the high percentage states going to be passed or not? Has this been done in the senate yet? Do I have only 4 weeks to live?


(logged-in user) December 27, 2009, 5:01pm (report abuse)

"the republicans said they will not sign off on another extension, it's time for people to swallow their pride and take that miminum wage job."

There aren't any minimum wage jobs to take! I don't know how many times I've applied at Walmart, even though they're all part time jobs.


(logged-in user) December 27, 2009, 5:27pm (report abuse)

Why is it all partisan politics? Aren't the republicans part of this country as well? Aren't there just as many unemployed republicans as there are democrats? What's the problem? Don't these guys want to be re-elected? They should be working together for the country instead of this bull crap they're playing now.


December 27, 2009, 9:03pm (report abuse)

site blows..i like 3548 much better no trolls in there


December 28, 2009, 2:19pm (report abuse)

Can anyone tell me how SEB works? I know that it is different than EUC, but don't quite understand it. I am in Georgia and I believe we get 20 weeks after all of the EUC tiers.


December 28, 2009, 5:26pm (report abuse)

Here is Georgia's Info:

On November 6, 2009, President Obama signed into law legislation authorizing additional extended benefits. The legislation provides an expansion of the Emergency Unemployment Compensation (EUC) program. The criteria established for EUC will continue to apply.

Individuals that established a State Extended Benefits (SEB) claim on or before the enactment of the bill will continue to receive benefits under the SEB program. These individuals will not be eligible to receive additional EUC until SEB is exhausted.

The Department began mailing notices on November 19, 2009. The notices provided instructions on how to apply for these additional extended benefits. The first payable week is the week of November 8-14, 2009.

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