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H.R. 45, The Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (423 comments ↓)
H.R. 45 would provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms.
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Jim
January 23, 2009, 5:51pm (report abuse)Are you kidding me!!! This country is enough trouble buying out banks that we shouldn't be, now they want to spend more to take mt GUNS!!! I say NO!!!
Steve
January 24, 2009, 2:40pm (report abuse)This is the beginning of the onslaught to take away our citizenship and turn us into "subjects" of the powers that be! I will not only do the 2 to 5 , but I will fight to the death before I let them STEAL anymore of my right!
Steve
January 24, 2009, 2:43pm (report abuse)This is the begining of the onslaught to kill our 2A. I will not only do the 2to5 years, but I will die fighting them before I obey this sh*t!
Come on America, wake up!
YankeeSpirit76
January 24, 2009, 2:53pm (report abuse)Let's roll America! Right your Rep. in the house and DEMAND that they kill this Bill. Don't ask. DEMAND! It is our Constitution they are ****ing with!
Do something before these idiots start another revolution!
smeg
January 24, 2009, 10:56pm (report abuse)Full text and more details can be found here:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45
Harold
January 25, 2009, 3:53pm (report abuse)Someone needs to knock some sense into Holts head! If this bill passes, it will be just one more step in taking law abiding citizens guns. Take a look at what happened in the UK. If you don't write your congressmen and tell everyone to get on the band wagon, it won't be long until the government has our weapons. I have already written my Congressman.
Brent
January 25, 2009, 10:06pm (report abuse)Another in many new steps coming to shackle the free. WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. This right shall not be infringed!! Why do you suppose it was the 2nd ammendment. Take heed as we are headed for a civil war. God Bless
Karla Black
January 26, 2009, 11:36am (report abuse)This bill is expensive, impracticle and won't work to decrease gun violence - the people who use guns to kill others are the ones who will not liscence their guns at all. This bill will cause nothing but increased cost for taxpayers and should be stopped immediately.
Michael Allee
January 27, 2009, 11:04am (report abuse)First trial balloon of many. My trump card is "If gun control stops gun ownership, then out law crack and pot etc." Obviously it does not work. if guns are hard to get or outlawed, you can buy them from the local crack dealer.
Michael
January 27, 2009, 1:37pm (report abuse)Free the terrorists, round up the law abiding gun owners! Hail to Obama!
Mike
January 27, 2009, 7:50pm (report abuse)I have mixed feelings about this one. I'm under the impression that the people who use guns to commit crimes usually don't own the gun legally. I'm all for licensing and background checks as a form of gun control, but let's be reasonable here: crack down on illegal gun ownership, not all gun ownership.
Bob
January 28, 2009, 3:30am (report abuse)Outrageous enough to fire up the entire gun community.
What we need is a counter bill that will eliminate all restrictive state laws on CCW.
Sallie
January 28, 2009, 12:14pm (report abuse)If all of the details in this purposed bill are true, we in fact in trouble, but heck, if England can start blooding each other with knives, I guess we can too...PEOPLE COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS...even if you didn't vote for them...MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD...sitting here in this comment section is not going to stop this miscarriage of justice...I am writing my congressman and senator and anyone else who will listen...and I don't even own a gosh darned gun...
Uncle Buck
January 28, 2009, 1:14pm (report abuse)"We the people" need to stand up for our 2nd Ammendment Rights--When will the people rebel--?? When our comfort zone is exceeded--By then it may be to late--Remember--Hitler--1st control education--2nd dissarm the public--We still have the power of the vote so vote those politicians out that do not represent the "Will of the People"--Before we lose that right too--
Albert
January 28, 2009, 5:54pm (report abuse)Don't blame this on Obama because that's just a lazy mans cop out. These tards have been trying to take our guns for years and will continue without end. We just have to keep fighting them. Be sure to write your state senators. How many people complaining here don’t have their NRA membership card. It’s like the lottery, you can’t win if you don’t play.
washington
January 28, 2009, 8:59pm (report abuse)The right to bear arms is our right granted by the constitution. Stand up and tell your state reps to kiss your a**. Cold day in hell when they take my guns.
Amendment-223
January 29, 2009, 3:10pm (report abuse)Rep. Rush has violated his oath of office. "To protect and defend" the Constitution of the United States of America. It is interesting that the Military take the oath to "protect and defend against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC," but congress just says they will protect the Constitution. Says something to their focus.
PoPoGoHome
January 29, 2009, 9:04pm (report abuse)The NRA is just a puppet gun control agency join a real agency like GOA.
Phil
January 30, 2009, 8:07am (report abuse)The 2nd Amendment was intended to protect the citizenry FROM an overreaching and oppressive Government. The people should never allow infringements of ANY of our rights. Contact your Representatives and let them know that they are there to do your work, not to searve their self-intre$t$ or special intere$t$.
Former Cop
January 30, 2009, 8:57am (report abuse)Law abiding citizens must be able to protect their family and themselves because the police cannot help deter crime because they simply can't be everywhere all the time.
Pittsburgh Ed
January 30, 2009, 10:37am (report abuse)The problem with this is if they try and get away with licensing fire arms, it will be the beginning of the end for other freedoms that we have,. I suppose the local "gang banger" is going to get his firearm licensed? Fat freakin' chance
NC-W.C.
January 30, 2009, 12:44pm (report abuse)Retired military; screw with the 2nd Ammendment; don't expect being elected for 2nd term or even completeng your first !!! Impechment probable.
Va. Ed
January 30, 2009, 1:43pm (report abuse)I strongly oppose this HR45 Blair Holt bill. Register today, tomorrow Demorcrats disarm the entire US poulation. In the 1930, when assuming power and creating a facist state, Hitler was a proponent of strong gun control laws, because a disarmed populance is much easier to control than an armed one. Even Kings of old outlawed weapons of any kind in the region that was conquered to quell the ability of citizens to up rise against them. That is the reason the founders put in the 2nd Amemdent, to guard against such a disarming. I am sorry that this young man was killed, so why don't congressman Rush take the indivual who committed this crime, the one who has killing in his heart to task.
Martin
January 30, 2009, 6:10pm (report abuse)Rep Rush have you heard of the US Constitution-- you know that thing you swore to defend when you took office. People it is time to get these people out of office, recall them - go to their public meeting and confront them. Whenever a politician violates his oath he needs to feel the heat! We - ie the guy in the mirror you see in the morning needs to protect the Constitution, it should be blatantly obvious that the corts and the politicians are not going to! Get active get involved! The founders fought and died for us, the least we can do is go to a couple of meetings.
smeg
January 30, 2009, 11:16pm (report abuse)Part of the problem is that many lawmakers and courts treat the language of the second amendment as if it is flexible/open to interpretation, or they try to find loopholes around the language. For example, some states (CA, MA, MD, and a few others if I recall correctly) tried to tax ammunition so that it would be ridiculously expensive to exercise the right to keep and bear arms- if you can't afford bullets it's the same as disarming you, but since they weren't going to confiscate any guns they supposedly weren't infringing on the second amendment. Fortunately, last I had heard, these blatant attempts to back-door the constitution had failed.
To all the police/ex-police and military/ex-military people reading or commenting here, thank you for all you do/have done to protect us and our freedoms.
South Carolina Girl
January 30, 2009, 11:54pm (report abuse)They're poking the hornets nest, trying to see just how many pokes it takes to get it stirred up. They want to USE the chaos they are creating, people, it's part of the grand scheme. Don't do anything rash until you know what it leads to and how to stop THAT. Know what you're up against. I never thought I'd live to see the time the world turns upside down but we've got a huge mess right now...the Founders must be angrily and sadly shaking their heads at us and their fists at the monster we've created. These fools have bunkers underground for themselves and FEMA camps and foreign military on our doorstep for us. The sad thing is, there's no outside force to come help us as we've always done for everyone else. They know that of course, and the media has made us look TERRIBLE to other countries anyway. "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." No Constitution=a nation full of us outlaws! Thanks to you guys for making me feel less alone and utterly hopeless.
Richard A. Orr
January 31, 2009, 7:18pm (report abuse)The Bill is not intended to provide any additional safety to the public but is a method of locating all guns and gun owners in the country. It is in opposition to several State Laws that allow (under Aduly Supervision) for youth under 18 to hunt.
smeg
January 31, 2009, 10:44pm (report abuse)Some very good info here, though some is a little dated, much of it could be used as a reference/resource when writing your public officials to support the second amendment.
http://www.gunfacts.info/
Also, much of this is specific to Michigan,but there are some very useful links (including the one above):
http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo/d_links.asp
E.L.
February 1, 2009, 10:46am (report abuse)Mr.Rush, are you really that nieve to think that the two who shot and killed young Blair Holt, will submitt to the Washington data base their drivers license, social security numbers, along with their finger prints, address, and register their firearm serial #, to the data base. Kain killed his brother Able with a club. Kain had hatered and killing in his heart. Your licenseing bill would not have prevented Kain and the two who took the life of young Blair Holt.
Jesse
February 1, 2009, 12:53pm (report abuse)I have long stated that this government was becoming the "Fourth Reich". If this passes, the next step will be the imprisonment, and possible execution, of those unwilling to give up their arms or their right to bear arms.
Seems to me that people misunderstood Pres. Obama-bin-Laden when he mentioned change.
He didn't say "change", he said "Chains". The kind of chains used to hold and restrain an American populace that still believe in the founding principles of this nation.
Jim Wainwright
February 1, 2009, 4:14pm (report abuse)I especially like the comments referring to the Tree of Liberty being refreshed. I have given serious thought and consideration to what my actions would be should agents of the US Government came to my house to disarm me. My sincere condolences go out to their families.
It's scary for sure, but I have no doubt where I'll stand.
Danny
February 1, 2009, 4:16pm (report abuse)I'm a small business owner as well as gun advocate. When an employee steals from the company or consistently doesn't do the job they were hired, I fire them. As a tax payer, I'm ready to ban with other small business owners and taxpayers and stop paying taxes to the federal government. All three of the federal branches would get the message that they are consistently NOT doing their job.
Phinias
February 1, 2009, 6:10pm (report abuse)This spells the end of America. They are deliberatly trying to criminalize millions.
The bigger concern is how this ever made it to congress to begin with. these idiots are supposed to be able to read the Constitution and the bill of RIGHTS.
can anyone say infringed?
Maine
February 1, 2009, 9:32pm (report abuse)We all have alot to say and our feelings are simuler but in the end the GOV. will do what they want and only a few of us will make a stand wile losing our lives blood would be on there hands not ours
Todd
February 2, 2009, 9:42am (report abuse)75% of violent crimes involve no gun at all. 90% of all the guns in the U.S. will never be involved in a crime. Assault weapons are involved in only 1.7% of all gun crimes. Politicians never let a little thing like statistical facts get in the way of their ideology or agenda.
Al Magazzine
February 2, 2009, 10:48am (report abuse)Another freedom down the tubes. Lenin may be right. We'll do it to ourselves.
David
February 2, 2009, 1:15pm (report abuse)Politicians prefer unarmed peasants. Bear true faith an alligience to the Constitution, not a political party. Our forefathers did it before, I guess it is our turn now.
ward
February 2, 2009, 3:02pm (report abuse)What an infringment of my rights. This bill is one more waist of tax payer money and a major infringment. Reminds me of Hitler's regester of guns before WW2. History is destined to repeat itself if lessons are unlearned.
ED
February 2, 2009, 4:04pm (report abuse)Geez...do I get this right on Page 19 line 6:
"It shall be unlawful for any person to keep a loaded firearm or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm if:
(Line 23)
Knows or reasonably should know that possession of the firearm by a child is unlawful under Federal or State Law
hmmm...that appears to say that if you have a child in your home, that you cannot keep a loaded firearm or ammunition anywhere in your house unless it is in a gun safe at ANY Time. I can hear my Wife now..."Honey I hear something downstairs, can you make it to the gun safe, enter the combination, unlock the gun lock, find the ammunition clip, fill it with ammo,and take care of this situation".
I'm sure the armed person who has just entered my house has no idea what HR-45 is or even cares.... what a farce!
Steve in Iowa
February 2, 2009, 5:02pm (report abuse)If they outlaw guns - only outlaws will have guns.
This is ridiculous and it should be stopped now or it will just get worse.
George In Georgia
February 2, 2009, 5:30pm (report abuse)Well, President Pelosi and VP Reid have the puppet on a string for this item too, God help and save this country because our federal government isn't going to.
EDGE
February 2, 2009, 5:38pm (report abuse)Humm Guns are used to secure the nation. So why would gun control be a sense of security.
Janice
February 2, 2009, 7:51pm (report abuse)Guns are what have kept people from the violent invasion of the United States(even though American jobs have been invaded from with mexican citizens).
Who in their right mind would invade the United States, knowing that American citizens have firearms and have a right to defend themselves.....or at least for the time being. People need to get away from the Television and start paying attention to the "WOOL" that is slowly being pulled over the american citizens eyes. What makes anyone think that a criminal wont commit a crime to get guns. THEY ARE CRIMINALS for the love of PETE! THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. I am in the process of getting a concealed weapons permit, and if I have to use the gun against a CRIMINAL who WILL get a gun no matter how they go about it, who starts shooting and killing people. I would like to be able to save a life or two. Instead of everyone standing around waiting to get shot at. We are slowly seuing ourselves into Communism!
Liberty or Death
February 2, 2009, 11:59pm (report abuse)They may get my weapons......but they'll have to walk over mounds of spent brass to get them......
LECHUGA
February 3, 2009, 2:47am (report abuse)People, wake up! We are talking to ourselves, it the Prozac-induced morons who vote that need to be awakened. How many millions of firearms are out there? Can all of those undereducated,overpaid, neanderthalic robots called "cops" really take them back? I like many other true Americans have no place to go for a new home. I am a Native American(not in the Indian sense), I was born here. There is not one country in existence I can live in, except the United States of America. Regarding Blubbering Bobby Rush, google that crack smoking moron and see just what a fecal pile he has been all of his meager time on earth. Blubbering Bobby is a complete illiterate, however, what is more scary is the morons who continue to reelect him year after year, says alot for Chicago. I wonder if Obama really thinks he can deceive Americans, like Chavez does in Venezuela, without starting a revolution Not in his favor? Here in the People's Democratic Republik of Kalifornia things are ripe for the picking.
Bandito
February 3, 2009, 5:23am (report abuse)Without the second Amendment the others are worthless....
You will get my guns AFTER the fight.
When injustice becomes law.. Rebellion becomes a duty
wAG
February 3, 2009, 7:34am (report abuse)Lets see if History can teach us anything: Hitler invades Poland 1939. Requires gun registration and them confiscates the guns.
In 1921 Hitler starts up his own "police force" (Sturm Abteilung) also known as Brownshirts. Like a civilian security or task force.
Why does all of this sound soooo familiar? Cant put my finger on it but it will come to me (probably in the middle of the night, in a violent torrent)
Good luck America and stay active.
bruce
February 3, 2009, 8:27am (report abuse)I guess we can bail them out after this fails to work. I say show them that they can and will be replaced, in future elections. I'll be in the line to sign up after all the thugs and criminals register their guns, oh wait I forgot they are not required to register their guns.
PatriotOfAmerica
February 3, 2009, 9:34am (report abuse)I understand there are detainment centers for those of us who will not tote the party line. Prepare thyselve's fellow patriots.
Al in Texas
February 3, 2009, 10:02am (report abuse)Gun owners unite. Tell the government they can stick it. It will be unforceable if we say NO.
.357 Magnum
February 3, 2009, 10:47am (report abuse)Democrat:
A person who is in posession of uncertian morals and who does not posess the fortitude to govern with integrity. Until such time as we eradicate Liberalism there will be no rights, freedoms or liberties that are safe.
Dosvidania!!!
Don Heavilin
February 3, 2009, 12:40pm (report abuse)I have special skills that very few people are aware of, if the government implements this plan they will find out what they are.
Patriot35
February 3, 2009, 1:22pm (report abuse)This should motivate every patriotic 2nd Amendment believing American to join the movement of removing the illigitimate Pretender-Elect from the office of POTUS by asking, en masse, for Obama/Soetoro to show his certified Birth Ceritificate, instead of spending $1 million so far to NOT SHOW IT! Go to www.DrOrly.Blogspot.com for your call to arms and marching orders - NOW!
Mark Daniels
February 3, 2009, 5:04pm (report abuse)Yet another law that only hurts the law abiding citizen & nothing to hinder the criminal. A criminal is already a criminal therefore does not care what new laws you inact!!
Get your head out!
February 3, 2009, 8:14pm (report abuse)You are not going to stop criminals by regulating law abiding citizens! They are CRIMINALS! As far as my guns go, If,You want 'em... You come git 'em. One of us ain't walking out.
chris
February 3, 2009, 9:22pm (report abuse)if young blair holt had ccw and a .45 would we be having this conversation?
OnePissedTexan
February 3, 2009, 9:30pm (report abuse)When do we license and regulate steak knives and tire irons? How about ice picks, 2x4's, and screwdrivers? All of these have been used to kill people as well. Why stop with firearms? Let's really take a bold step and enforce the laws the all knowing, all seeing legislators have already passed. Put some criminals in prisons that are intended to punish, instead of educate them how to be better felons. Start holding parents accountable for what their little gang banger children are out doing and I think they'll probably find a way to keep track of the little dears.
job creation?
February 4, 2009, 7:12am (report abuse)This B.S. would make a lot of job's building prisons for AMERICAN'S like me,because I will not give up my second amendment rights. Get these people out of office!!!
GoodTex
February 4, 2009, 9:55am (report abuse)There is a private property owner in Europe currently imprisoned for a longer sentence than the criminal who broke into his farmhouse because he shot the intruder, which was against the law since he was not allowed to bear a firearm. THIS IS TYRANNY when a law abiding citizen is not allowed to protect his property. Our Constitutional framers specifically put this in our Constitution to prevent this from happening here.
MI Hunter
February 4, 2009, 1:30pm (report abuse)This is totally ridiculous !!!
DO NOT allow this to happen !!!
PatriotOfAmerica
February 4, 2009, 3:50pm (report abuse)Folks, this is not the only bill that is coming after us - it's the Serialization of Ammo that is being pressed in 18 states. This can and will be just as effective as gun control. Please research what's going on at the state level.
Odd
February 4, 2009, 4:30pm (report abuse)I see a lot of comments, and not one that supports this bill.
Our representatives are not listening to their people!
Write letters to your congressmen!!!!
BH
February 4, 2009, 7:13pm (report abuse)I can't believe we keep putting these people in office. I think it's time to vote out every incumbent up there. It appears they no longer have their constituency in mind, just their own agenda.
Dustin
February 4, 2009, 9:23pm (report abuse)I can't belive this is actually real and not some terrifying daydream or movie I saw. If you want to disarm me come and f***ing try. I'll be waiting. Register my balls.
JR
February 4, 2009, 10:37pm (report abuse)Another politician who is not using any brain power and writing unenforceable legislation. Another Dodo bird who has not looked at the reasons why this won't work. Who or how do these pin heads get elected? Remember the Constitution you were elected to follow and protect?
SWS
February 5, 2009, 12:21am (report abuse)Once again, the political powers do not have any idea what is happening. The economic situation of this nation does not need any more wasted spending of our tax dollars.
We need jobs, a positive growing economy and security. With each passing day, the announcement of more job layoff, negative ecomony and insecurity of our citizens does not lend well to adding additional continued wasted spending.
mtnrydr
February 5, 2009, 8:12am (report abuse)Here we go again! I would encourage everyone to contact their representatives and let them know your opinion. We can vote the idiots out in two years. I for one WILL NOT register sh*t!! They can have my ammo one bullet at a time.
Bob
February 5, 2009, 8:20am (report abuse)This is Socialism at it worst! Once we loose our Second Ammendment rights, the rest are sure to follow in short order. Tying this to childeren's safty is a sneeky attempt to get it passed. When they come for your guns "Just Say NO!!!
Randy
February 5, 2009, 9:58am (report abuse)If HR45 does pass, then the citizens need the stick togeather and fight this. We can not win on our own.When they come to arrest or take possession of what is yours you need to make the phone call so that those in number are now out numbered and will give up there weapons. We the people out number the mindless little drones who follow orders without thought. The people have to stick togeather and work togeather to keep what is ours. (our freedom)
Korean Vet
February 5, 2009, 12:42pm (report abuse)This is one of the most assinine proposals I've heard. I have several hand and long guns and I'll keep them to the day I die, the way they were proposed to be used for in the beginning. Two I carry (I have a CC permit) and others I use to hunt. I will, and we all should, contact our representatives IMMEDIATLY and voice our oppinion on this infrigment of our constitutional rights. Hey, try to register all the crooks armor....
NRA Member
February 5, 2009, 12:46pm (report abuse)As those of you who are members of the NRA know, they have fought strongly against any infringement on our run rights, and won. If you're not a member, join now and add to the many who will fight against this bill. NRA defeated many of these in the past and can continue to do so with all of our support.
Marie
February 5, 2009, 2:28pm (report abuse)Don't allow this to happen!!!because,......
"I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy!"
DJK
February 5, 2009, 3:21pm (report abuse)I'm ready to dump some tea into the harbor... just let me know where/when to meet.
J.M.P NRA MEMBER
February 5, 2009, 4:11pm (report abuse)tHE ONLY THING THIS BILL WILL DO IS HAM STRING LAW ABIDING CITIZENS. THIS IS A ROTTEN BILL TAKING AWAY LAW ABIDING CITIZENS RIGHTS. THIS NOT GERMANY IN THE 1930'S.
Regular Joe
February 5, 2009, 6:35pm (report abuse)I will not lay down my arms. I will not register my guns. I have been a law abiding, tax paying, good natured American. If this passes I will become an instant criminal and I shall not be ashamed. It is not just our right to bear arms - It is our DUTY.
Dr. Beasley
February 5, 2009, 6:48pm (report abuse)This bill is designed to disarm good law abiding American people so that they are defenseless and more reliant upon the Police State.
Rediculous.
We are not that stupid.
ARIZ MIKE
February 5, 2009, 7:16pm (report abuse)Illegals no ID Cards - Gun owners -ID Cards - Any gun legislations is unenforceable. No peace officer will place him or herself in harms way to this extent.
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