H.R. 2159 would increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of a firearm or the issuance of firearms or explosives licenses to a known or suspected dangerous terrorist.
Detailed Summary
Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009 - Amends the federal criminal code to grant the Attorney General the authority to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of a federal firearms and explosives license to any individual if the Attorney General: (1) determines that such individual has been engaged in or has provided material support or resources for terrorist activities; and (2) has a reasonable belief that such individual may use a firearm or explosive in connection with terrorism. Allows any individual whose firearm or explosives license application has been been denied to bring legal action challenging the denial.
Prohibits the sale or distribution of firearms or explosives to any individual whom the Attorney General has determined to be engaged in terrorist activities.
Permits the Attorney General to withhold information in firearms and explosives license denial revocation suits if the Attorney General determines that the disclosure of such information would likely compromise national security
Authorizes the Attorney General to revoke firearms and explosives licenses and permits held by individuals determined to be engaged in terrorism.
Status of the Legislation
Latest Major Action: 6/12/2009: Referred to House subcommittee. Status: Referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security.
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Visitor Comments
NRA_Associate
May 6, 2009, 6:07pm (report abuse)This Bill denies people their constitutional rights. It imposes the restriction of constitutional rights of a person who has broken no law and has not been convicted by a Judge and Jury. This is the most repressive and Orwellian piece of legislation I have ever seen. It violates almost every ammendmant in the constitution.
DailyKenn.com
May 7, 2009, 8:18pm (report abuse)A criminal record will no longer be the only excuse for snatching your Second Amendment right to carry a hand gun.
If the government merely considers you a potential terrorist, it can take away your right to defend yourself with a firearm.
Currently there are over 300 million Americans who are elgible to for consideration as potential terrorists.
The pending legislation is H.R. 2159.
Frog E
May 7, 2009, 9:40pm (report abuse)This is ridiculous! The usurper has been directing his henchman to classify every conservative as a terrorist. Veterans, Pro gun groups, anti abortion groups Etc. The true terrorist sit in their ivory towers of the house of congress.
salome
May 8, 2009, 12:01am (report abuse)gonna get very,very interesting now,innnit ?
justme
May 8, 2009, 3:27am (report abuse)Wow... this is gettin stupid. I guess we all can standby to get the lable now. With the way they are going, only those in office will be safe. Why do we allow such uneducated people to be in gov. Offices..?
hookcolumbus
May 8, 2009, 8:36am (report abuse)i say the terrorists are government officials who try to take gun roghts away...
pray7004
May 8, 2009, 1:22pm (report abuse)This is important, don't waste your energy with these comments, we have all got to fight this, please right and call of Congressman (believe me it does help) especailly when you tell them come their next re-election time....you will not support them....this has got to be nipped-in-the-bud.....we have got to fight for our Freedom...like our ForeFathers before us, so get busy.
Also check out HR 1966 too...they are coming at us from all sides now
Dan Brewer
May 9, 2009, 2:11am (report abuse)This bill is the worst piece of trash that has ever been proposed by more than one Member of Congress or the Senate!
I Guess they were Never taught what a RIGHT is, or what the Constitution is although they stood up and took an Oath to defend it!
I suggest the Immediate Impeachment of everyone who wrote it co-sponsored it or that votes for it!
Just in Case they read this, A RIGHT Guarenteed under the Constitution Can not be Infringed! The ownership or possession of a firearm is a "Right", NOT A PRIVILEDGE! You regulate Priviledges, NOT RIGHTS!
And According to the DHS Anyone who owns a gun is a Terrorist to start with! Not to mention anyone who has a mind and thinks for themselves!
WAKE UP PEOPLE! THEY ARE TRYING TO IMPRISON US ALL BY RESTRICTION!
Peter Courtenay Stephens
May 9, 2009, 5:11pm (report abuse)This 71 year old grandfather, 48 year married, Army Honorable discharged Vet, Tax paying, Voting, Law abiding, Ivy league educated, Constitution Defending, Non Republican-Democrat says to Representative King of New York and his 6 co sponsors of this dishonest and completely unconstitutional bill!
Heil Hitler You Nazi Scum
Peter Courtenay Stephens
May 9, 2009, 5:33pm (report abuse)Let me explain why I think this bill has been brought at this time. Besides the fact that the powers that be in the Obama administration including the messiah himself want gun control and actual elimination form the people the timing now is because, and this is only my opinion based on a very active participation in Freedom, is that the government in Washington which has been increasingly acting as a rogue government senses that there is a very decided under tow of disgust and anger in the American people because of the criminal class behavior from Wall St to the on the take Congress and that their is an ever increasing risk of armed rebelion in this country. Many Americans realise that this Rogue government is attempting to subjugate the people and the Constitution to indentured servitude to the elites and the supporters of the governments handouts and largess. This is only my opinion and may be way off track but, I do not think so.
smeg
May 9, 2009, 8:38pm (report abuse)Well, this should set off another wave of panic gun buying and ammo hoarding once word gets out.
This piece of %@$& is a blatant violation of the constitution and my representatives will be hearing from me...
Al Barrs
May 10, 2009, 7:56am (report abuse)Has Rep. King and the other sponsors lost their cotton picking minds?
What happened to our concept of "innocent until proven guilty? What happened to our 2nd Amendment right? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY?????
Charles A Givens
May 10, 2009, 8:10am (report abuse)Lock and Load folks it is almost time.
Mr. Clean
May 10, 2009, 2:40pm (report abuse)Treason is punishable by death.
You better learn that politicians.
We the People will enforce our CONSTITUTIONAL rights to
Save our great Nation. You politicians are trying your best
To destroy the USA. YOU are the terrorists and you need
To LEAVE or be removed!
T. G.
May 10, 2009, 4:00pm (report abuse)The nature of some of your comments have probably put you on the watch list allready.
Sevenfoot
May 10, 2009, 5:39pm (report abuse)Please take a moment to read and sign this petition, Citizens Against HR 2159. This is how we, The American People, use our voices to announce our disenchantment with our governments disregard for The Constitution of The United States of America.
Thank you.
Ryan
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Sevenfoot
May 10, 2009, 5:41pm (report abuse)Sorry, the hyperlink for my comment above didn't take. Here is the link to the "Citzens Against HR 2159" Petition.
www.PetitionOnline.com/No2159/petition.html
justme
May 10, 2009, 6:05pm (report abuse)I bet they want to lable us law-abiding, rights-flexing citizens terrorists because they know THEY are the real terrorists and they want the heat off them. Like was said above, lock and load... its almost time...
justme
May 10, 2009, 6:11pm (report abuse)I bet they want to lable us law-abiding, rights-flexing citizens terrorists because they know THEY are the real terrorists and they want the heat off them. Like was said above, lock and load... its almost time...
Ronald Patrias
May 10, 2009, 6:24pm (report abuse)"A criminal record will no longer be the only excuse for snatching your Second Amendment right to carry a hand gun."
You are correct, sir! In my belief the restrictions placed on even convicted felons from obtaining firearms legally is unconstitutional and needs to be repealed.
Ken Garrett
May 10, 2009, 8:03pm (report abuse)It's high time the citizens elect members from other parties rather than Democrat and Republican. May I suggest the Constitutional Party.
Rex Baker
May 10, 2009, 11:58pm (report abuse)I wrote to my congressman and got a " I hear you," " I support you " and he actually said nothing. Started talking in " politicianese " I believe Mr. Stephens ( above ) is onto something. Even when the politicians have been shown to have their hands in the cookie jar, nothing happens to them. If they go to jail, very little time is served and have we ever heard officially that they have paid any money back that they took? We need a clean slate of everyone in Washington and I mean everyone.
smeg
May 11, 2009, 10:36pm (report abuse)Rex,
Can't argue with that! I've been saying for a while that no one convicted of any crime (above a traffic violation) should be allowed to run for office and if they are in office and get convicted of a crime then they get replaced. Only problem is that we'd be constantly having elections for the replacements! :)
jjet
May 12, 2009, 7:48am (report abuse)Molon labe!!
Tar and Feathers
May 17, 2009, 2:56pm (report abuse)Without benefit of review or the ability to contest denial, denial of a Constitutional right based on hearsay evidence is wrong.
Congress is the enemy of the people. They shall be charged accordingly at some point and answer for their crimes.
Who puts names on the list? Who added a 4 year olds name to the no fly list? Who elects these morons?
It's almost time.
southerncross
(logged in user) May 18, 2009, 5:04pm (report abuse)My Wife and I are totaly against any new Anti-GUN Bills of any kind.
gary
May 18, 2009, 6:10pm (report abuse)this is total bs!!! trying to use fear tactics to take away rights ... sounds like more government bs we need all new congress . and no more career polititions. 2 terms your gone!!!!! if youve been there for more that eight years then you are out ,its time to vote idiots out!!!!
Jason from Houston
May 18, 2009, 11:20pm (report abuse)I used to think the saying "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns" was hyperbole. More and more I fear that the 100,000,000 US citizens that own guns are being marginalized.
100,000,000 outlaws. Think about it.
COME AND TAKE IT.
Randwulf
May 19, 2009, 11:23am (report abuse)I say they should enact a law requiring terrorists who are hijacking jet liners to file a flight plan at least 10 days prior to committing their crime. I think this would curb that sort of behavior.
Randwulf
May 19, 2009, 11:35am (report abuse)Obviously this will keep all those Islamic types from coming in here and buying up weapons. Because, once they find out they are denied the purchase they will just give up. Right? I mean, once they know that it is against the law for them to buy a weapon, they will just go on back home and forget about it. Right? Because in order to get a gun to use to kill people in terrorist attacks, they would have to break the law by buying weapons on the black market from other criminals. And since they would know that this kind of thing is illegal, they wouldn't do it. Right? Geeezzz!!
Does Congress really think we are all THAT stupid out here? The law is designed to disarm law-abiding citizens who oppose the USURPER, not any criminal outsiders! If they pass this, there will be an insurrection, but it won't be in Iraq. Jihadists will be the last of their worries on Capitol Hill.
JKOhio
May 19, 2009, 9:01pm (report abuse)I guess terrorists will have to skip the permit process and just buy from the blackmarket.
john churilla
May 19, 2009, 9:24pm (report abuse)this bill is to remove the guns from everyone this is also a bill that will help the Oboma team get controll so that when they do force marshall law there will be smaller group resitance these *ssholes know fully what there doing , but what they have going is fooling the many stupid Americans that care not to pay attention to these criminals we have running our nation. if you would go to IFOWARS.COM get caught up on whats going on in washington D.C it is not good and it happening faster then we all can follow. O boma is a f----en lier he will burn in hell for is corruption , I pray he repents and turns
NOT WORRIED
May 19, 2009, 9:30pm (report abuse)THEY CAN NOT SEE WHO IS SITTING AT YOUR PC AND TYPING IN THIS LINK AND CAN NOT PROVE IT , DO NOT FEAR THESE CROOKS THEY DO NOT HAVE AS MUCH POWER AS THEY THINK , THE END FOR THEM WILL BE TERRIBLE!!!!!!!
Joe Crupie
May 20, 2009, 10:41am (report abuse)I signed the petition.. what a horrible bill this is. You can't take guns away from "terrorists" when you call Ron Paul supporters terrorists! What the hell, anyone that supports liberty will be deemed a terrorist!
steve king
May 20, 2009, 2:50pm (report abuse)Take my dd214, house and citizenship while your at it House of self gratification. You all should be tried for treason!
not dumb
May 20, 2009, 9:39pm (report abuse)guess we'll just have to get our guns from local gangbangers coming over the border u can call whatever you want but dont come asking me for my freedom!!!
digitalpatriot
May 20, 2009, 11:01pm (report abuse)wow, the commies are really going hard now. Look up they're definition of a "terrorist". It simply means anyone with a voice.
they can have my gun. in fact they can have my bullets too - two in the chest.
MisterJones
May 20, 2009, 11:53pm (report abuse)This bill is dumber then a bag of hammers!
MisterJones
May 21, 2009, 12:07am (report abuse)Oh yeah,as we say in The Republic of Texas come and take it!I will shoot stright and often,Iam so tired of waiting! Let battle be joined!
mickey
May 21, 2009, 3:22am (report abuse)they declared war on us when they put out the 2 reports saying that almost everyone,right and left,was the enemy. what else do you need to understand that these people are totally insane. they put everything on the fast track,and will push right to the edge
obama is a radical muslim.who's rights does he fight for? where was his first television appearance? who paid for his harvard edu? who did he bow to?
who was his first phone call to?why does he apologize for what we do? wake up america. TEXAS SAYS"BRING IT ON!!!!!!!"
JIM3888
May 21, 2009, 3:25am (report abuse)MAYBE THIS WILL GIVE US THE REASON WE NEED TO PUSH BACK. AMERICAN REVOLUTIION STYLE
Donald
May 21, 2009, 7:13pm (report abuse)Hey Guys, let's not panic. We're armed and alert, aren't we? I'm a vet of two wars, a gun owning member of the NRA and a patriot. Congresspeople push their parochial agendas all the time. The way to deal with this Bill and any others that we dislike is to stay hot on your Representative's butt, support the NRA and other organizations that help protect our constitutional rights, and stay alert, as you obviously are. But I'm an American, bred and born, and I disagree with those of you who advocate for revolution. Let's maintain the rule of law, even while remaining prepared. And always love our country and our Constitution. I know that my sons and grandsons in the military have sworn, as I have, to defend the Constitution of the United States and to defend this country. And I trust that they and every other patriotic military person would not follow any orders that would involve killing and imprisoning their countrymen.
sglhsgsfkggsgngj
May 21, 2009, 8:56pm (report abuse)my friend says that if we want firearms we would be considered a terrorist due to this act so we wouldn't be able to access them. then we won't be able to defend ourself against bears. oh and the american holocaust.
David W
May 22, 2009, 10:26pm (report abuse)Hell according to the DHS, Americans who own a firearm, go to church, believe in God, hate the spending that is going on (no matter who was President), has a Ron Paul sticker on their car, and who attended the Tax Day Tea Party and who is a member of a Tea Party organization are considered terrorists. Buy the guns while you still can! I wish I could but thanks to damn economy I'm broke!
areasontolaugh
(logged in user) May 23, 2009, 6:39am (report abuse)I'm a Republican, Conservative, but I don't see anything here other than "you're wrong", "revolution", "tea party" and other vague declarations and threats. When someone has a good idea other than 'let's kill everyone and then it will be bliss' let me know.
Marvin P
May 25, 2009, 2:51am (report abuse)GOD BLESS YOU PATRIOTS! DONT LET EM GET IN OUR HEADS GUYS WE CAN HOLD THEM DOWN!
Theres millions of us who vote, have guns legally, pay taxes, baby this country and will continue to do so. When the time comes well have an Armed Revolution which wont be a tough one easy! All we gotta do is get together. Salute!
Don P. Miller
May 27, 2009, 12:03pm (report abuse)This 43 year Veteran, Voting, Law Abiding, Educated, Constitutional Defending, Non Republican-Democrat,
Here to Stand and Serve with Peter Courtenay Stephens (his comments above).
To D.H.S.:
Come take my rights from me. Because that is exactly what you are going to have to d0, is take it from me. Good luck, and pack a lunch...you are going to need it.
SLO
May 28, 2009, 11:03am (report abuse)"this bill is to remove the guns from everyone this is also a bill that will help the Oboma team get controll so that when they do force marshall law there will be smaller group resitance these *ssholes know fully what there doing , but what they have going is fooling the many stupid Americans that care not to pay attention to these criminals we have running our nation."
That's what I've been saying since the first intimation of the gun ban. If I had money, I would buy myself one...at least I've learned how to shoot!
gburg61
May 28, 2009, 7:07pm (report abuse)thats right you idiots ...let them know what you really think and when the time comes they will get the internet records and pick us up one at a time for making"dangerous threats" on the internet...STOP publicly stating your anger and get involved quietly
carcinoma2087
(logged in user) May 30, 2009, 6:48am (report abuse)No one is buying the terrorism lie any more. This isn't about protection. its about our rights that are vanishing like dust the breeze. I think it may be wise to begin looking at how your voters feel before passing these sorts of laws on these sorts of issues. The is no way one earth any law could come back to win the popular opinion from the 95 to 5 it is at right now. i honestly dont know why i bother here, if the people opinion mattered to you, things would not be the way they are.
mike3912
June 1, 2009, 11:02am (report abuse)your presumed innocent till proven guilty, not the other way around. this shouldn't be passed.
Rotorhead43
July 4, 2009, 6:49pm (report abuse)This is just another step in establishing a "top Down", scoialist, statist society, where all control is in the hands of the Government. Thomas Paine where are you!! It's more than time to clean House (both sides), install term limits, start with "Common Sense".
They are systematically stripping us of all of our rights, and draining us of our livelyhoods. We and especially our children are becoming financially shackled for decades to come. DON'T TREAD ON ME!!! Actions have consequences...
BobbyD
July 7, 2009, 8:29pm (report abuse)Justme almost called it, by saying that our reps are "uneducated"; that's not exactly true. Many are just plain ignorant. Ignorant isn't the same as stupid or uneducated. I'm amazed by the number of people who don't understand their constitutional rights, much less firearms or all the hoops that the law abiding have to go thru just to buy one.
Roy J. Reissner
July 15, 2009, 9:18pm (report abuse)The only free people that will have guns, or get guns are going to be the bad people, not the law abiding ones. I was in Australia just after they took the guns away. Only the criminals had guns and they were not affaid to rob a home because the owners did not have guns to defend themselves.
throwback
September 24, 2009, 9:21am (report abuse)Guns? What guns? I don't have any guns...
oldbiker
September 24, 2009, 3:20pm (report abuse)I agree "LOCK AND LOAD" tHE TIME IS COMING FAST,AND I WILL STAND FOR MY RIGHTS!!hOW About YOU?
onceacop
September 25, 2009, 1:35am (report abuse)the time for talk is over!
Bob
September 25, 2009, 9:24am (report abuse)Apparently terrorists getting permits to purchase guns and explosives has become a real problem.(note the sarcasm) This is aimed directly at you and me not terrorists. Darker days are coming.