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H.R. 193, The AmeriCare Health Care Act of 2009 (8 comments ↓ | 3 wiki edits: view article ↓)

H.R. 193 would amend the Social Security Act and the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for an AmeriCare that assures the provision of health insurance coverage to all residents.

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miller

May 10, 2009, 8:13pm (report abuse)

The federal government just passed CHIP health care for children--so that should not be reason for nationalized health care. The "poor" are covered by medicaide. This is just another way for the government to get more control and more of our money. Plus, the government has bankrupt social security and medicaire, they have allowed sensitive national security to be hacked because of web-based data sharing (the way national health records are managed), what makes anyone believe that they are responsible to manage our health care or our medical records. Socialized medicine does not work in England, or Canada, and it certainly will not improve the lives of the majority of Americans, yet it will cost each of us tremendous amounts of money and personal freedoms that most enjoy now.

miller

May 10, 2009, 8:31pm (report abuse)

One more point--for those that would argue "what about people who are between jobs or don't qualify for medicaire?" First let's distinguish between health care and health care insurance. Nobody with a medical issue who goes to an ER room is turned away due to inability to pay. It would be far cheaper to provide subsidies for private insurance companies to cover the cost of the uninsured than to put the already bloated and wasteful federal government in charge of another insurance program. Any theoretical savings that could potentially be gained from a single-payer health care system (national healthcare insurance) would surely be more than offset or eaten up by the massive inefficiancy and corruption of federal beaurocrats. No way can the federal giovernment do anything better than private free-market--I cannot think of a single government program that when compared to the free market alternative, proves to be the better solution.

johnnn

May 14, 2009, 2:40am (report abuse)

@miller:"Any theoretical savings that could potentially be gained from a single-payer health care system (national healthcare insurance) would surely be more than offset or eaten up by the massive inefficiancy and corruption of federal beaurocrats"

Hmm let's look at this graph:
http://www.kff.org/insurance/snapshot/chcm010307oth.cfm

sooo I suppose the US spends twice as much on health care as every other country, all of which use single-payer taxpayer funded programs, because our private sector is really thrifty and efficient?

jlopez

August 5, 2009, 2:25pm (report abuse)

People that get layed off are usually covered by COBRA and they keep their health insurance. They just have to pay for it at the same rates as their previous employer. I did it for a short time when I retired.

Wanda

August 15, 2009, 8:50pm (report abuse)

I agree with all of your comments and would add that I hope our American people wake up and refuse this before it is too late. We are a country based on individual freedoms and most of us do not want to be "socialized".

Why?

September 5, 2009, 8:07pm (report abuse)

Why are some of you so dumb? I recognize you may be seventy or eighty and don't have much time left, but would you stop making decisions for the rest of us? FACT: COBRA is not cheap - its over four hundred a month for ONE person. I hope YOU wake up and realize that just because YOU have medical insurance doesn't mean everyone does. There are 9 million uninsured Americans- and those are just the children. I can't wait for you townhalltea-bagging a%#holes to either wake up and realize you're not the only ones who exist on this planet - or just do us all a solid and f*^%ing die allready. then you won't have to worry about health insurance anymore!

REALLY?

September 5, 2009, 8:16pm (report abuse)

What many of you seem to missing is the fact that the private sector is not doing a better job. The bill does not make you take government health insurance, and will cost a fraction of what we spend on the Pentagon. I love how nobody has a problem for years spending billions on a farce of a war and yet once we suggest we provide health care to Americans the right is all up in arms. I suggest that if you have a problem with how the government is running things you take that up with the military.

Kenneth Dawson

September 28, 2009, 8:44pm (report abuse)

The fact is that 'socialized medicine' works very well. The American health system is driven by greed and gluttony. I worked in surgery for ten years and the right doesn't want to tell you the horror stories private medicine commit - patients hooked up to CO2 rather than O2, wrong procedures done, butchers who get by as surgeons because they are covered by fellow docs and hospital administration. In socialized medicine critical cases are handled immediately. If you a boil on your ass you might go on a waiting list. It's called triage. Wake up people and quit buying into the right's boogyman. The system now isn't about health, it's about profit and patients be damned.

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